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Conference Call Discussing Earnings for Second Quarter 2024 Results

This transcript of the earnings call that occurred on November 3, 2022, contains certain statements that are, or may be deemed to be, “forward-looking statements” within the meaning of Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933, as amended, and Section 21E of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, as amended, or “Exchange Act,” and are made in reliance upon the protections provided by such acts for forward-looking statements. Such statements are not based on historical fact, but are based upon numerous assumptions about future conditions that may not occur. Forward-looking statements are generally identifiable by use of forward-looking words such as “may,” “should,” “intend,” “estimate,” “will,” “potential,” “could,” “believe,” “expect,” “anticipate,” “project,” and similar expressions. Readers are cautioned not to place undue reliance on any forward-looking statements made by us or on our behalf. Forward-looking statements are made based upon information that is currently available or management’s current expectations and beliefs concerning future developments and their potential effects upon us, speak only as of the date of the earnings call, and are subject to certain risks and uncertainties. We do not undertake any obligation to publicly update or correct any forward-looking statements to reflect events or circumstances that subsequently occur, or of which we hereafter become aware. Actual events, transactions and results may materially differ from the anticipated events, transactions or results described in such statements. Our ability to consummate such transactions and achieve such events or results is subject to certain risks and uncertainties. Such risks and uncertainties include, but are not limited to, the matters set forth below:

  • national and international political instability fostering uncertainty and volatility in the global economy including an economic downturn, exposure to fluctuations in foreign currency rates, interest rates, and inflation, including increases in our costs and our ability to increase prices to our customers, which may result in adverse changes in our gross profit;
  • supply chain issues, including a shortage of IT products, may increase our costs or cause a delay in fulfilling customer orders, or increase our need for working capital, or completing professional services, or purchasing IT products or services needed to support our internal infrastructure or operations, resulting in an adverse impact on our financial results;
  • the duration and ongoing impact of the COVID-19 pandemic, including but not limited to the impact and severity of new variants, vaccine efficacy and immunization rates, the closure of non-essential businesses and other associated governmental containment actions, and the increase in cyber-security attacks that have occurred while employees work remotely;
  • domestic and international economic regulations uncertainty (e.g. tariffs and trade agreements);
  • the creditworthiness of our customers and our ability to reserve adequately for credit losses;
  • loss of our credit facility or credit lines with our vendors may restrict our current and future operations;
  • significant adverse changes in, reductions in, or losses of relationships with one or more of our large volume customers or vendors;   
  • managing a diverse product set of solutions in highly competitive markets with a number of key vendors:
  • increasing the total number of customers using integrated solutions by up-selling within our customer base and gaining new customers;
  • adapting to meet changes in markets and competitive developments;
  • maintaining and increasing advanced professional services by recruiting and retaining highly skilled, competent personnel and vendor certifications;
  • increasing the total number of customers who use our managed services and professional services and continuing to enhance our managed services offerings to remain competitive in the marketplace;
  • performing professional and managed services competently;
  • maintaining our proprietary software and updating our technology infrastructure to remain competitive in the marketplace;
  • reliance on third-parties to perform some of our service obligations to our customers, and the reliance on a small number of key vendors in our supply chain with whom we do not have long-term supply agreements, guaranteed price agreements, or assurance of stock availability;
  • our dependence on key personnel to maintain certain customer relationships, and our ability to hire, train and retain sufficient qualified personnel;
  • our ability to implement comprehensive plans for the integration of sales forces, cost containment, asset rationalization, systems integration and other key strategies;
  • a possible decrease in the capital spending budgets of our customers or a decrease in purchases from us;
  • the possibility of goodwill impairment charges in the future;
  • changes in the IT industry and/or rapid changes in product offerings, including the proliferation of the cloud, infrastructure as a service, software as a service and platform as a service;
  • our dependency on continued innovations in hardware, software and services offerings by our vendors, availability of those products from our venders and our ability to partner with them;
  • significant and rapid inflation may cause price, wage and interest rate increases, as well as increases in operating costs which may impact the arrangements that have pricing commitments over the term of the agreement;
  • our contracts may not be adequate to protect us, and we are subject to audit in which we may not pass, and our professional and liability insurance policies coverage may be insufficient to cover a claim;
  • exposure to changes in, interpretation of, or enforcement trends in legislation and regulatory matters;
  • future growth rates in our core businesses;
  • rising interest rates or the loss of key lenders or the constricting of credit markets;
  • reduction of vendor incentives provided to us;
  • failure to comply with public sector contracts or applicable laws and regulations;
  • our ability to secure our own and our customers’ electronic and other confidential information, while maintaining compliance with evolving data privacy and regulatory laws and regulations;
  • our ability to raise capital, maintain or increase as needed our lines of credit with vendors or floor planning facility, or obtain debt for our financing transactions or the effect of those changes on our common stock price;
  • our ability to remain secure during a cybersecurity attack, including both disruptions in our or our vendors’ IT systems and data and audio communication networks;
  • our ability to realize our investment in leased equipment; 
  • our ability to successfully perform due diligence and integrate acquired businesses; and
  • our ability to protect our intellectual property rights and successfully defend any challenges to the validity of our patents, or allegations that we are infringing upon any third-party patents, and the costs associated with those actions, and, when appropriate, license required technology.

We cannot be certain that our business strategy will be successful or that we will successfully address these and other challenges, risks and uncertainties. For a further list and description of various risks, relevant factors and uncertainties that could cause future results or events to differ materially from those expressed or implied in our forward-looking statements, see the Item 1A, “Risk Factors” and Item 7, “Management’s Discussion and Analysis of Financial Condition and Results of Operations” sections in our Form 10-K for the year ended March 31, 2022 as well as other reports that we file with the SEC.

This document may also contain non-GAAP financial information. Management uses this information in its internal analysis of results and believes that this information may be informative to investors in gauging the quality of our financial performance, identifying trends in our results and providing meaningful period-to-period comparisons. For a reconciliation of non-GAAP measures presented in this document, see our earnings press release issued November 3, 2022, a copy of which is posted on our website at www.eplus.com/investors


November 7, 2023 – FY24Q2

Prepared Remarks


Good day, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the ePlus Earnings Results Conference Call. As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded.

I would like to introduce your host for today's conference, Mr. Kley Parkhurst, SVP.  Sir, you may begin.

Kley Parkhurst, SVP

Thank you for joining us today.  On the call is Mark Marron, CEO & President; Darren Raiguel, COO & President of ePlus Technology, Elaine Marion, CFO; and Erica Stoecker, General Counsel.

I want to take a moment to remind you that the statements we make this afternoon that are not historical facts may be deemed to be forward-looking statements and are based on management's current plans, estimates, and projections. Actual and anticipated future results may vary materially due to certain risks and uncertainties detailed in the earnings release we issued this afternoon and our periodic filings with the Securities & Exchange Commission including our most recent Annual Report on Form 10-K, Quarterly Reports on Form 10-Q, and in other documents that we file with the SEC, including the Form 8-K we filed on October 6, 2023 recasting certain disclosures in our most recent Annual Report. Any forward-looking statement speaks only as of the date of which the statement is made, and the Company undertakes no responsibility to update any of these forward-looking statements in light of new information, future events, or otherwise. In addition, we will be using certain non-GAAP measures during the call. We have included a GAAP financial reconciliation in our earnings release, which is posted on the Investor Information section of our website at www.eplus.com.

I’d now like to turn the call over to Mark Marron. Mark?

Mark Marron, CEO, President

Thank you, Kley, and thank you, everyone, for participating in today's call to discuss our second quarter fiscal 2024 results.

I will start with some key takeaways. ePlus generated solid results in our second quarter, with consolidated net sales up 19%. This was driven by strong sales growth of 21% in our Technology business, which included 9% revenue growth in our services businesses. Diluted earnings per share advanced 14%, slightly lower than sales growth due to a shift in product mix, a decline in financing segment earnings, given uneven deal flow and tough compare year over year, as well as, increased operating expenses, which included investments in our key growth initiatives. Our second quarter performance benefited from continued market share gains and improved product availability that enabled us to deliver on orders from prior periods.

Gross billings improved for the third consecutive quarter, totaling approximately $856 million, representing a 7.4% gain over the same period last year, as we continued to drive organic and acquisition growth to capture market share.

Our demonstrated ability to drive sales and earnings growth, even in an uncertain economic environment, underscores the strength of our strategic plan, our expertise across the broad technology stack, and diversification across customer types and end markets. Through our comprehensive portfolio of innovative solutions and service offerings, ePlus enables successful and cost-effective outcomes that align with our customers’ IT objectives.

I was particularly pleased with our sales growth as we experienced increases across nearly all market verticals and customer sizes in the second quarter, led by the strength for our networking, collaboration and managed services solutions.

Networking represented our best-performing category, as net sales grew approximately 62% year-over-year. This strong growth reflected three main factors:  1) a contribution from recently acquired Network Solutions Group; 2) a continued improvement in product availability that enabled us to deliver on prior customer orders; and 3) organic customer demand.

The prevalence of hybrid work, distributed computing and the emergence of AI are driving growth for advanced networking architectures, and we are capturing share in this space through our innovative solutions and partnerships with leading OEMs. Continued customer investment in network modernization solutions is also contributing to our growth in this space. This includes building out AI enabled infrastructure solutions and supporting AI implementation with advisory services around data modeling and governance and risk best practices.

Our workspace transformation, or Collaboration, net sales grew 41% year over year and has created market-wide recognition of our technology leadership in the space. For example, we were recently recognized as Reimagine Work Partner of the Year for the Americas from Cisco. This award recognizes partners who are excelling at hybrid work, customer experience, leading innovation and empowering collaboration with Webex. We were also recognized for the release of our proprietary ePlus collaboration solution called Automated Virtual Assistant, or AVA. ePlus AVA is an in-house developed managed service that leverages automation and artificial intelligence to provide automated testing and reporting on the health of Cisco video devices, conference rooms and workspaces to ensure effective operations.

Security was 18.5% of our technology gross billings in the trailing twelve months. Security net sales increased 7% in the quarter. Customers look to ePlus to better mitigate the rising sophistication of cyberthreats and want us to provide comprehensive risk management solutions. In October, we announced our holistic program, called “Compromise Nothing”. This comprehensive program includes strategic assessment and advisory services, and our managed service offerings. Our extensive capabilities distinguish ePlus in the security solutions market and provide attractive opportunities for us to build and expand relationships with both existing and new customers.

Our Services segments performed well, with net revenue increasing 9% year-over-year primarily due to strong growth in Managed Services which grew 21%. Over the past year, we have focused on expanding our solutions and capabilities in Managed Services, which offer the advantage of recurring and predictable monthly revenue streams. We continue to see our customers shift their IT spend toward SaaS-based solutions, given upfront cost advantages, ease of scalability and simplified maintenance requirements. The continued growth of our SaaS offerings, such as Storage as a Service (STaaS) and AVA, remains a key growth driver for ePlus within our Managed Services business along with our other annuity services and helps with visibility and predictability on future revenue streams and profitability.

Strong double-digit growth in Managed Services revenue, coupled with greater operating efficiency, drove a significant improvement in the profitability of this business with gross margins increasing 460 basis points.

Professional Services revenue edged higher as growth in project services revenue was largely offset by a decrease in staff augmentation. This performance is consistent with customer IT spending trends, which currently tend to favor shorter-term projects that generate relatively fast return on investments.

Additionally, we believe the growing adoption of automation and AI will drive more demand for cloud, storage and analytics. To meet these needs, we are leveraging our capabilities in Cloud and Consulting, along with our partnerships with AI leaders such as Nvidia, Lenovo, and Pure, to help our customers design and deploy AI infrastructure solutions that deliver significant value over time.

Our Financing segment delivered a solid quarter, consistent with our expectations even as results declined on a year-over-year basis. As I noted in last quarter’s call because this business benefited last year from specific financing deals, we anticipated that quarterly comparisons this year would prove challenging and create a tough compare. While quarterly or even yearly results in this segment can be variable, our financing business provides flexibility for our customers while delivering strong profitability.

We remain committed to investing in our team and in our capabilities to capture future growth opportunities. We added a significant number of customer-facing employees year over year, with a particular emphasis on sales, professional services and technical support personnel. We have continued to build out our solution and service offerings around managed services such as Storage as a Service and AVA. Additionally, we invested in the construction of our new state-of-the-art customer innovation center, which will enable us to showcase our breadth of innovative offerings and expand our warehouse and logistics capabilities. These investments, higher acquisition-related depreciation & amortization expense and lower financing segment operating income, moderated second quarter growth in consolidated operating income. Despite a tough economic environment, we are pleased that consolidated quarterly net earnings increased 14.7% to $32.7 million, and in our technology business segment, operating income increased 12.5% to $35.9 million and adjusted EBITDA increased 17.1% to $45.5 million.

I’d like to express my thanks to the entire ePlus team for delivering another quarter of solid financial performance. I will now turn the call over to Elaine to discuss our financial results in more detail. After Elaine’s remarks, I will provide our financial outlook for fiscal 2024.

Elaine Marion, CFO

Thank you, Mark. And good afternoon, everyone. I will provide additional details about our financial performance in the second quarter of fiscal 2024.

Consolidated net sales increased 19.0% to $587.6 million. Technology business net sales grew 21.3% to $571.9 million, aided by the fulfillment of open orders and the NSG acquisition. Service revenue increased 9.0%, reflecting continued strong growth in Managed Services partially offset by modest growth in Professional Services.

Sales remained broad-based across our customer verticals. On a trailing 12-month basis, our two largest verticals were Telecom, Media and Entertainment, and Technology, representing 25% and 18% of our Technology business net sales, respectively. SLED, Healthcare and Financial Services accounted for 16%, 13% and 10% of our technology business net sales, respectively, with the remaining 18% divided among other end markets.

Our Financing business segment faced a particularly challenging comparison this quarter and as such revenue declined to $15.7 million from the prior-year period primarily due to lower proceeds from sales of equipment, lower transactional gains, and lower month to month rents.

Consolidated gross profit increased 8.3% to $144.4 million, representing a consolidated gross margin of 24.6% compared with gross margin in the same quarter last year of 27.0%. The decrease in gross margin from the same period last year primarily was the result of product mix and lower Financing business segment earnings.

Within our Technology business, gross profit increased 12.4% to $130.7 million. Technology business gross margin was 22.9%, compared to 24.7% in the year-ago quarter. This decrease was mainly due to a lower proportion of third-party maintenance and services sales, which are recorded on a net basis.

Services gross margin increased significantly, with Managed Services gross margin improving 460 basis points to 31.1% and Professional Services gross margin expanding 270 basis points to 41.3%. The improvement in Services profitability primarily reflected enhanced operating efficiency driven in part by the increased scale of our Managed Services segment.

Operating expenses increased 11.6% year-over-year to $99.5 million, reflecting higher salaries and benefits due to additional headcount, depreciation and amortization expense from the NSG acquisition, and increased spend on T&E and marketing.

We ended the September quarter with headcount of 1,877, an increase of 148 employees of which 118 were customer facing. It should be noted that we onboarded 83 employees with the acquisition of NSG. 

Technology business operating income rose 12.5% to $35.9 million, while Financing business segment operating income declined 26.4% to $9.0 million. On a consolidated basis, operating income grew 1.7% to $44.9 million.

Earnings before tax increased 11.8% to $45.0 million as the foreign currency losses from last year did not replicate in the current quarter. The effective tax rate was 27.4% in the second quarter of fiscal 2024 compared to 29.3% in the year-ago quarter.

Consolidated net earnings were $32.7 million, or $1.22 per diluted share, reflecting increases of 14.7% and 14.0%, respectively, from the year ago quarter. Non-GAAP diluted earnings per share were $1.40, up 8.5% year-over-year. Our diluted share count at the end of the quarter was 26.7 million, unchanged from the second quarter of fiscal 2023. Adjusted EBITDA in the technology business rose 17.1% but declined 26.2% in the financing business segment. As a result, consolidated Adjusted EBITDA improved 6.5% to $53.6 million. 

That brings me to our year-to-date review. Consolidated net sales grew 22.0% to $1.16 billion for the first 6 months of fiscal 2024, primarily driven by 23.6% net sales growth in the Technology business. Technology business gross billings increased 12.2% to $1.70 billion. Consolidated gross profit increased 16.1% to $286.6 million. Consolidated gross margin was 24.7% compared to 25.9% a year ago, due primarily to the mix in the product segment. Consolidated net earnings were $66.5 million or $2.49 per diluted share, compared to $50.8 million or $1.91 per diluted share. Adjusted EBITDA rose 21.3% to $107.4 million, and non-GAAP diluted earnings per share expanded by 23.2% to $2.81.

Shifting to the balance sheet, cash and cash equivalents were $82.5 million at the end of the second quarter, compared to $103.1 million at the end of fiscal 2023. As supply chain pressures continued to ease and product availability improved, we were able to deliver on prior customer orders and related services. As a result, inventories declined to $222.1 million, from $243.3 million at the end of March 2023. Inventory turns continued to improve to 29 days, compared to 32 days in the preceding quarter and 38 days at the end of fiscal 2023. Our cash conversion cycle was 51 days compared to 52 days in the year ago quarter and 59 days at the end of fiscal 2023. Given this improvement, year-to-date operating cash flows were of $10.3 million, compared to $119.7 million of cash used in the same period last year.

While we expect our customers to be more conservative with their IT spending in the second half of fiscal 2024 as Mark mentioned, ePlus remains well positioned given our strategic focus on higher-growth end markets. As always, I want to thank our talented ePlus employees for continuing to drive our solid financial performance.

With that, I will turn the call back over to Mark. Mark?

Mark Marron, CEO, President

Thank you, Elaine.

Through the first half of our fiscal year, ePlus has delivered strong financial performance. Our results highlight the continued success of our growth strategy, and the advantages of our diversification and comprehensive capabilities. 

As we enter the second half of our fiscal year, we are beginning to see sales cycle timelines extend, as customers prioritize cost optimization initiatives and reallocate spending accordingly. In this environment, we anticipate customers will focus on projects that deliver relatively fast return on investments while continuing to deploy solutions that enhance cybersecurity. ePlus has successfully navigated through similar periods of economic uncertainty in the past, and we remain confident in our outlook given our market positioning and focus on key growth verticals. 

As a result, we reaffirm our previously issued financial guidance for the current fiscal year. We continue to expect fiscal year 2024 net sales of approximately $2.23 billion to $2.33 billion, and adjusted EBITDA of 200 million to 215 million dollars, representing a margin of 9.0% to 9.2%. Our guidance assumes, in part, a continued easing in supply chain constraints that enable us to complete previously delayed customer projects.

In closing, ePlus remains focused on building long-term shareholder value through the execution of our growth strategy and the efficient allocation of capital.

Operator, please open the call for questions. Thank you.



[Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from Maggie Nolan with William Blair.

Maggie Nolan, William Blair

Hi, thank you. I was hoping you could give us a little color on the mix within revenue of SMBs versus large enterprises and any different spending trends or expectations that you have across the different client types?

Mark Marron, CEO, President

Sure, hey Maggie how are you? So, as I think you know, we really don't focus on the S in SMB. So, we're mainly a midmarket to enterprise play. Many of the solutions that we're rolling out across cloud, security, networking collaboration and now AI kind of fit in that mid-market, which is our sweet spot. With that said, from 500 employees and above, we were actually up, and our enterprise sales were up. I want to say for the quarter, net sales were up like 7% or 8%. So, we actually had a really nice quarter related to our customer size segments. Our top 5 verticals were also up both in net sales and gross billings. So nice execution by the sales team across the different customer size segments and verticals. Did that get what you needed, Maggie?

Maggie Nolan, William Blair

Yes, it did. And then when we think about the full year guidance, what is your visibility into the guidance look like right now when you initially built the guidance, did you expect such a strong first half of the year as well as some of the commentary that you gave on kind of weaker IT budgets in the back half of the year, or has that changed over the course of the year since you set guidance?

Mark Marron, CEO, President

Yes, there's a couple of things, Maggie. So, we're still very comfortable with our guidance. And if you think about it, our guidance as it relates to a compare to last year on net sales is actually up 8% to 13% depending on where we fall within that range. So that's a very strong uptick as compared to the market overall and as compared to our peers. A couple of things went into it. Yes, we did expect a stronger first half. A couple of things to kind of call out at a very high level. One is Q3 this year -- sorry, last year for tech is going to be a really tough compare for us. So, we were -- our net sales were up over 28% last year in our Q3. So, it's kind of a tough compare, if you will. And we are starting to see some sales cycles extend and customers watching spend from a cost optimization. So, there's a few things there that kind of factor in to our thought process, but still feel good with the guidance that were given and did expect the first half to be a little bit higher.

Maggie Nolan, William Blair

Got it. Thank you for the update and nice quarter.


Your next question comes from Greg Burns with Sidoti.

Greg Burns, Sidoti

Good afternoon. When we look at the Technology segment sales, how much of that was organic versus inorganic?

Mark Marron, CEO, President

Yes. Approximately 25%, a little over that, was acquisition related. The other 74%, Greg, or so was organic. What you saw there, Greg, in our numbers, just high level. You saw some supply chain easing specifically in the networking space. Networking was up big. I think it was up 62%, if I remember correctly. Collaboration was up nicely as well. So, some of our workspace transformation, some of the things going on in networking are starting to roll out nicely, and the team did a nice job of executing there. But it was roughly 3/4 organic, 1/4 acquisition related.

Greg Burns, Sidoti

Okay. To that idea of the supply chain easing, how much of the networking or product revenue as a whole was from you drawing down your backlog versus net new business?

Mark Marron, CEO, President

Yes. Greg, that's hard. The only thing that I can tie it to, our inventory levels were down about $22 million, but there was an awful lot of new deals, both booked and invoiced in the quarter, and it's a really tough one to figure out what was backlog -- what was open orders versus net new effectively.

Greg Burns, Sidoti

Okay. Then I guess just lastly, can you -- I know you drew down the inventory and were able to deliver on some of that backlog. But how does that backlog look, I guess, relative to maybe historic levels, is it still elevated, and maybe can you give us a sense of your pipeline?

Mark Marron, CEO, President

Pipeline is within where we would think it would be for this quarter. The one thing I would tell you, Greg, that I got to highlight again. Last year, in Q3, we had a really strong tech quarter. Our net sales were up over 28%. The adjusted gross billings were up almost 30% in that quarter. So, it's kind of a tough compare there. But with that said, as compared to traditional Q3 quarters pipeline, backlog, all the things that we're tracking is in play. The only caveat I'd put on that is we are seeing some deals that are taking a little bit longer as customers try to figure out what they want to spend from a priority standpoint. And they're trying to do some cost optimization across some of their cloud and security plays. And the other thing, too, some of it's ratable, too, Greg, which affects that.

Greg Burns, Sidoti

Okay. The sales cycles, is that getting longer across customer segments, or is it mainly in the large enterprise.

Mark Marron, CEO, President

Mainly enterprise but higher mid-market, but it varies by customer, Greg. You'd be surprised with customers in terms of sometimes how long it takes to turn things around through their legal, through their procurement team. So, it varies by customers. But normally, the enterprise, the bigger deals are normally the ones that take a little bit longer.


Our next question comes from Matt Sheerin, Stifel.

Matt Sheerin, Stifel

I just wanted to follow up on Greg's question regarding backlog. Could you tell us what the backlog levels look like now versus 60 days or a quarter ago, and versus traditional or historic levels?

Mark Marron, CEO, President

So sorry, Matt, I missed that. What was the question regarding backlog?

Matt Sheerin, Stifel

Yes, I was just looking for the back -- what is the backlog? Greg had asked that question, but I'm not sure we got an answer because you've been talking for a few quarters about very elevated backlog because of the component shortage. It looks like the supply has come in nicely and you're shipping to backlog. So, a potential concern would be that backlog gets worked off and what happens to growth after that. So, I'm just hoping to get some color on that.

Mark Marron, CEO, President

Yes, I got you. Yes, open orders are down but they're still higher than traditional levels, if you will. So, they did trend down. Backlog is actually up. Pipeline is actually in line with what we're expecting for the quarter. So, besides the tough compare, we wouldn't see anything that would dramatically affect the numbers, if you will, whether it's related to open orders, backlog and/or pipeline just yet. With that said, the caveat is, Matt, as we mentioned previously, is the timelines are extending with some of the customers, so it gets tougher and tougher to kind of forecast.

Matt Sheerin, Stifel

Okay. Fair enough. And I know you're reiterating your revenue forecast for the year. As we think about the next couple of quarters, it looks like in terms of seasonality, you typically have sequential growth in the December quarter and then down in the March quarter. I'm wondering if that's how we should think about modeling or are things different just because of the backlog and the way things are trending. So, is that -- should we think about that seasonality playing out again or no?

Mark Marron, CEO, President

Yes, very much so, Matt. But once again, if I could just highlight, the tech quarter last year was from a compare was extreme where gross billings -- adjusted gross billings were up almost 30%. So that would be the only caveat. But I think what you said is very fair and very realistic.

Matt Sheerin, Stifel

Okay. All right. And then -- and just lastly, you talked about growth from that acquisition. How does the acquisition pipeline look like in terms of your M&A?

Mark Marron, CEO, President

M&A pipeline is really strong. There's a lot of opportunities out there. But like anything, Matt, we've got to continue to vet them out. Some of the pricing multiples are coming down a little bit, which is a positive.

But in terms of that, there's still plenty of opportunity, both from a territory services perspective as well as what I'd call product type services, and/or solutions, but still have to work through the process on those. But the pipeline is fairly robust.


[Operator Instructions] Seeing no further questions. I will now turn the call back to Mark Marron for any closing remarks.

Mark Marron, CEO, President

Okay, thank you. Everybody, thank you for joining us for our Q2 call. And if I could, I'd like to wish everybody a Happy Thanksgiving and a healthy and happy holiday season, and we'll talk to you in the February time frame. And have a happy new year as well. Take care.


This concludes today’s call. You may now disconnect.

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